19 May 2012
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19 May 2012
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About the Project Citizens Working Group Notes from our first meeting
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Citizens Working Group Meeting Notes March 22, 2010 7 – 8:30 p.m., Building 19 In attendance were: 42 citizens – including Aubrey Layne from the Commonwealth Transportation Board 8 persons from HRCCE 8 persons from the City 1 Virginia Beach City Council member – Mr. Louis Jones About half of the attendees had received the information letter in advance. Jim Oliver did the “welcome,” Betsy McBride talked about the project and took questions and Todd Solomon talked about the Web site with viewing assistance provided by Kevin Fairley. Attendees divided into three smaller groups facilitated by Ken Wheeler, Roger Richman and Betsy McBride. Return Notes – turned in Suggestions for speakers from individual Return Notes: Wendell Cox – described as “international expert with substantial published works on the topic of transportation.” Smart Growth representative – qualified suggestion “as long as there is an equal level of expertise and time allocated to expertise from the other side of analysis spectrum.” Spectrum of futurists – “on a number of potential game changers to better understand the second and third ordered effects and risks of transportation choices and their interrelationships with other variables.” Fiscal capacity expertise – “David Walker and the current CBO Director as well as others to give their year-out look to have an understanding of fiscal capacity.” Comments from Return Notes “An intellectual challenge is developing the methodology by which the costs and benefits (explicit and implicit) are computed and allocated. Computed includes the sources and manner of revenue collection. Executable is a function of funding; and, therefore fiscal capacity is the limiting factor in defining the boundaries of transportation alternatives.” Times preferred from Return Notes: Anytime Monday evening, 6 – 7:30 p.m. M, W, T – 5 p.m. or later Thursday at 7 Any evening – 6:30 p.m. Who else to bring in? – from Return Notes Bruce Williams Claudia Puopol Chesapeake Bay Foundation Sierra Club Tidewater Bicycle Association Other environmental organizations Other items for the Web site from Return Notes: Regional information for considerations for Virginia Beach decisions Regional merits of Virginia Beach decisions Congruity of Virginia Beach plans/decisions with adjacent jurisdictions and their transportation plans/decisions European cities that have implemented successful transportation programs/infrastructures Link to ItsTimeVirginia.org Link to VBgov.com FLIP CHART NOTES – Betsy McBride Other Information Related to Modes and Learn More? Information on boats/marine craft/ferries Horse powered mobility – facilities needed Rail Elevated vs. on grade Intercity and intracity Maglev Autos as a space Hybrids Taxis, including different operating modes, private for hire, by-appointment Multi-modal connectivity Freight transportation needs School buses What do we want transportation to do? (that is, Communities of Interest) Commuting Tourism School transport Business Pleasure/personal travel Need socio economic database – TPO has good baseline data Demographics Growth, etc. Trends Existing planning assumptions MSA statistical data FHA, FTA have MSA data Land Use Comp Plan Link to CitiWire Who to bring in? Dr. Koch Military to talk about transportation needs Dick Dunleavy offered to ask a commander about speaking about their needs for moving military personnel Gentleman from ULI offered to find experts Need to set up density/fare/subsidy discussion Speakers/discussions - Why do light rail? What about all other alternatives? Where do our decisions fit into the region? What is the true cost to build and operate a light rail system? What can citizens afford? What are the benefits/costs/considerations of various options? What are the metrics to evaluate for light rail? Financial Pollution effects or avoidance Health Needs of different users Good Examples from other places Berlin – very connected Singapore with commuting rules Montreal SF – Bart FLIP CHART NOTES – Roger Richman Producers of transportation services NGOs that provide transportation Assisted living Community services board Area Agency Aging Churches With funding sources like Medicaid What about regulations, liability, ……? Funding allocations by government agencies? Impact of military transportation on Beach transportation? Military needs, including military commuters and their impacts Consider region on this, not just VB, think long-term – 20 years out Horses? Trails Add to special needs populations Work force transit – “economically disadvantaged workers getting to low-paying jobs” HRT and Traffix sites Employer-provided transport but at what pick up points? Persons with needs related to developmental disabilities HRT alternatives – recognize its deficits and monopoly, what are legal issues of Starting a jitney service? Marine transport options and dredging needs for personal watercraft Canoes – water trails (Lynnhaven to Back Bay) What about if offshore energy production begins? Taxi and Limo services, jitneys? Air travel – there is an airfield in Pungo. While ORF is in Norfolk, getting to it is a VB concern as is the Burton Station Strategic Growth Area’s proximity. Cars – rental and hourly Zip Cars Taxis and limos Traffic calming strategies, how to made neighborhood streets safer, publicize how to get a traffic signal/light. School rules against walking or biking. Carlos said his daughter was scolded for biking to school. (Carlos lives in Chesapeake) Rules/practices in VB? Bike racks? Accessible paths? Sidewalks Want a conversation about a walkable city Web site links to civic leagues and city agencies Sidewalks Link to demographic data and changes in elderly populations How to retrofit areas without sidewalks? Adding without eminent domain abuse Issues of cul de sac development effect on pedestrians, emergency vehicles, funneling traffic onto arteries. Modes Scooters, mopeds, horse/equestrian trails Sidewalks – want a conversation about schools and PE and bike access Want conversations about transportation and costs out-of-pocket environment history What will motivate change? Cost of fuel? Environment and health? Congestion and time wasted? Telecommuting and teleconferencing Sources DRPT FLIP CHARTS – Ken Wheeler Modes Purpose of transportation? Start point – end point? Envision Virginia Beach Water transportation – ferries, etc. Regular/normal cars Commercial vehicles Fun tour buses Greyhound buses Freight needs Telecommuting VDOT Airport – should we have our own? Related Considerations – across modes Technology – what are realizable technological innovations, efficiency improvements? Military Mission – safety and security of country Carriers Military employment growth as data need Economic and land use impacts Consolidations – cannot meet mission if all military in one place Funding Public/Private Partnerships Emergency Evacuation What are needs, infrastructure? Fiscal Capacity What can citizens afford to pay? What about under various economic conditions/impacts? Current Topics Have younger people engaged: Web site, Tweet, Facebook and CWG Resort area interest in neighborhood and cultural sustainability e.g. small businesses survival population of a neighborhood – how far will they go to shop? How to link with rest of community How to keep neighborhood sustainable while having transportation needs met? Accessibility paramount for disabled How to get to the transportation? How to access it upon getting there? How to use – no sidewalks, becomes difficult Various equipment Pushed, have motor, self-pushed Buses Limits to handi-ride – hours, where live Whatever the mode, must be accessible to all users. Complete Streets Will “complete streets” work for Virginia Beach? Sidewalks How about sidewalk census? What neighborhoods do not have sidewalks? Does City have information about sidewalks? Culture – economic status for car ownership, can get in and go youth culture related to transportation sense of identity – not public transportation Can you walk from A to B? Can the culture of transportation change? Special Requests from Group Can we have large picture of Strategic Growth Areas for the working group to help with envisioning neighborhoods and connections throughout the City? 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